"twinturbobmw" (twinturbobmw)
12/27/2013 at 12:52 Filed to: Buildsheet
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"twinturbobmw" (twinturbobmw)
12/27/2013 at 12:52 Filed to: Buildsheet | 4
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Because Craigslist Hunt was gone this week (holidays), I thought I'd start a new game which I've been putting off for a while. I know you guys will love it. So if you have a bit of free time, let's get started.
(photo: turbomagazine)
What buildsheet is about is choosing a car and finding parts to create a car meeting the requirements and budget. (e.g. lemons car, $500) You are free to "buy" any cars and parts however I might add in little touches such as "The car must have less than 120hp stock. Or parts must be 50 US state legal." But because this is the first Buildsheet, I'll leave it open to just a topic and budget. I encourage you to modify the car to your personality and what you like. Make the car your own. Here's the criteria:
Topic: Best Autocross Car
Budget: $8,000
For now this is all the criteria but later on it will get more strict.
Happy Building!
Party-vi
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 13:04 |
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Aight.
Here's a $3,000 '84 Corvette with a rebuilt/salvage title . With $5,000 left I'd strip & sell the interior for $500 gain. Spend $350 on a seat, $200 on a 4-point roll cage, $100 on a harness, $500 for GoPro goodies, and $2,000 on bolt-on suspension upgrades. The last $2,350 would go towards extra tires and some junkyard wheels.
Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 13:08 |
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2007 Suzuki SX4 for $6,000 Part out the useless to Rally Cross shit. Use that money to have a cage made.
Put some all-terrain tires on it around $800?
$150
$74
Cut off Muffler and race.
Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 13:10 |
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http://knoxville.craigslist.org/cto/4260711869
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/cto/4255499969
Engine + transmission out of the Corvette
swap into the Suburban
slap this turbo on it
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/pts/4208015067
So, $1100 + $500 + $5850= $7450 Hoon monster
04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches.
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 13:16 |
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Cobalt SS - http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/4225572961
Without a doubt one of the best 4-bangers I've ever driven. I've always thought they'd do damn well in autocross.
Give it a few suspension mods and weight reduction and you're all set.
Audi S4 - http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/4232714521
Because it's "sophisticated fast" lol.
No mods needed for that.
TyFc3s-A car hating millennial
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 13:17 |
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Well, the chassis is easy for me (see my name) An Fc Rx7, set you back about $4000 for a good Turbo 2, leaving me $4000
Id spend $1000 on Bc coilovers
Racing beat sway set for $305 and the end links for $77
Poly Bushing set $150
A corksport power pulse exhaust is like $700, and its fine unless theres a sound restriction
The other $1700 would go to wheels and tires, without much research in autocross tires id probably go with 245 series R888s for $900 and then try to find some used 17" Rp-F1s for the last $800
Future upgrades would be a mazdatrix short throw shifter for $200, make a lexan hatch glass, and maybe bridgeporting for $800, which would probably come with the removal of the turbo untill i got the money for a turbo kit with a ball bearing batmowheel s372..
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Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur
12/27/2013 at 13:18 |
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Rally Cross not Dakar!
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Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur
> Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
12/27/2013 at 13:20 |
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Nope, Autocross. Yes, in a Suburban. A Cummins turbo LS1 6 speed Suburban.
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twinturbobmw
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 13:22 |
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Being me, I had to go with BMW:
E36 328i - $3800
aFe Stage 2 intake - $275
Eibach PRO-street coilovers - $1850
StopTech Stage 2 Brake Kit - $342
Remus Exhaust - $ 778
CSL wheels - $660
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Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur
12/27/2013 at 13:22 |
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But transaxle?
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twinturbobmw
> TyFc3s-A car hating millennial
12/27/2013 at 13:23 |
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Hmm. Didn't think of an RX7. Good choice.
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Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur
> Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
12/27/2013 at 13:25 |
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Just swap the entire drivetrain out of the vette. There
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Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 13:38 |
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1996 BMW 328i V6
What a rare machine.
Casper
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 13:41 |
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You didn't think of an RX-7 but your picture is of a rotary in what looks to be an FD lol. Sounds like you and I both need more coffee this morning.
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twinturbobmw
> Casper
12/27/2013 at 13:42 |
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I searched for a RX7 picture then completely forgot it was a thing when I got to Craigslist.
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Casper
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 13:43 |
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That was your subconscious trying to tell you that any turbo rotary will probably need more than $8k in parts ;)
It's a "Porch-uh"
> Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
12/27/2013 at 13:44 |
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Don't need a cage for AX.
Wait, AT tires?
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It's a "Porch-uh"
> Party-vi
12/27/2013 at 13:46 |
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Add a big fan from a tank.
http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/i-give-you-the
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Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> It's a "Porch-uh"
12/27/2013 at 13:46 |
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I thought he said Rally cross.
Wow, I'm a fucking idiot.
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Party-vi
> It's a "Porch-uh"
12/27/2013 at 13:47 |
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Damn. Forgot about downforce upgrades haha.
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It's a "Porch-uh"
> Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
12/27/2013 at 13:47 |
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Are you still on vacation? Have you been drinking?
If so, I'm jealous.
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Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> It's a "Porch-uh"
12/27/2013 at 13:48 |
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Nope, at work. Been up since 5:30 am.
190e30-Now with COSWORTH
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 13:52 |
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H&R sway bars and springs pre-installed, Brakes pre-upgraded- Free
SR20 from a Sentra, transmission included-$3595
Total spent: $7900, $100 left for paint. Gulf Livery Acquired. +1000bhp
I think I might have won this one.
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It's a "Porch-uh"
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 13:58 |
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FC RX7 with blown/missing motor/transmission - $500
Sell any parts that are salvageable (if worth it) +$200-600
Junkyard LQ4 or 9 - $400
T56 transmission - $1000
Custom drive shaft - $600
LS parts (cam, intake manifold, etc) - $1200
Metal for engine mount (fab it yourself) - $50
Race seat (used, out of date) - $200
Belts (used, out of date) - $50
Suspension - $2000
Wheels (used) - $800
Tires (take offs?) - Free to $800
Totals about $7000.
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It's a "Porch-uh"
> TyFc3s-A car hating millennial
12/27/2013 at 14:03 |
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I wouldn't recommend the R888s. They used to be the spec tire for Spec944 but they didn't heat cycle well and took forever to warm up (not great for AX). We went back to RA-1s, but I believe those are becoming in short supply so another change may be coming this year.
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It's a "Porch-uh"
> Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
12/27/2013 at 14:04 |
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Ah, well get some coffee (maybe with a little Baileys).
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Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> It's a "Porch-uh"
12/27/2013 at 14:05 |
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Irish it up.
jdrgoat - Ponticrack?
> Party-vi
12/27/2013 at 14:08 |
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People may give them crap all they want, but with this budget I don't know if you'll beat a C4 for autox. (Insert Miata screams here.) Strip it (including rear glass like the one I saw autox-ing a couple years ago), bushings, springs, shocks/struts, sway bars, take-off brakes from a newer Vette, R888s or RE-11s, and you're pretty much set.
theloudmouth
> Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
12/27/2013 at 14:15 |
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BMW made a V6?!?!?!?!?!
(In case it wasn't obvious enough, yes I am in fact being an ass).
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Party-vi
> jdrgoat - Ponticrack?
12/27/2013 at 14:26 |
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I mean really - huge aftermarket support, simple and cheap 350 engine, IRS, it's perfect.
Z (ND + Cancer Fighter)
> twinturbobmw
12/27/2013 at 15:06 |
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I wonder how hard these would be with a MK3 Supra...
I would talk the owner down to $2250, since it's A) a non-turbo and B) an automatic. Being the owner of a MK3, they would gladly take it. That would leave me with $5750.
I would then take out and sell: the front seats (+$150/pair), the back seats (+$80), the plastic panels all around the hatch (+$120 total) and the spare tire (+$20). I'd also sell the "sawblade" rims and tires (+$300)
I would then remove the 7M-GE long block and A340E transmission and sell those (+$250 and +$200, respectively). So that would leave me with $6870.
I would then buy this '97 2JZ-GTE with VVTI and A304E Transmission (-$1995) and then sell the A304E (+$200) and the A/T ECU (+$150). I'd just buy some off the shelf swap brackets (-$150), along with a Gasket Rebuild Set (-$439), differing VVTi gasket bits (-$50) and a new water pump (-$160) to rebuild the engine with. Obviously spark plugs, misc. bolts and hoses would be needed too (- about $300).
So $4,126 left. Need a transmission, so a used W58 5-speed out of a junk yard would be about $150. I would need a bell housing adapter (-$365), a new flywheel (-$315), a new clutch kit (-$465) and a aluminum driveshaft (-$439) that would work with the differential. I'd also need this manual transmission adaption kit that would work with a MK3 (-$527) to overcome the car's original lack of manual transmission bits.
So with $1865 left, I have everything but a seat, suspension and wheels taken care of. Actually, totally forgot about cooling. A MK3 intercooler kit (-$420), radiator (-$350), and hoses (-$99).
So $996 left. I'd pick up one of those generic race seats from AutoZone (-$120), these rip-off racing rims and tires (-$450) and have $306 left for some miscellaneous stuff that would come up during the build.
With the 2JZ's power, the slightly reduced weight (-500 lbs), and some okay tires, the MK3 would handle autocross just fine and be a blast.
aquila121
> twinturbobmw
12/28/2013 at 16:52 |
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The answer is always Miata.
saabstory | fixes bikes, breaks cars
> twinturbobmw
01/11/2014 at 00:23 |
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Andros N3 Anthracite Accent - $384
Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position - $348
StopTech Slotted Rotors - $386
Bilstein Touring Class Front Shocks - $104
Bilstein HD Rear Shocks - $170
Rally Armor Basic Mud Flaps - $16
Black Leather Corbeau TRS - $625
I don't know how much steel tubing I'd need, but let's say $50 worth for an exhaust system similar to Clarkson's XJS system. Straight outta the hood.
That brings my total to $3058. I don't know what sort of engine crap needs to be done to this, but I'd assume at least $4942 worth. So I'd turbocharge it, maybe a new tranny, but mostly I'd restore it, I think.